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Dantonio sticks up for Roushar

All season there has been talk about offensive coordinator Dan Roushar among fans.

Many view him as a reason for Michigan State’s lack of offensive success this season.The Spartans rank 11th in the Big Ten in scoring offense at 19.6 points, just ahead of last-place Illinois’ 18.1 points per game. MSU is ninth in the league in total offense with an average of 370.8 yards per game.

MSU does lead the Big Ten in time of possession, has the league’s second-leading rusher (Le’Veon Bell at 123.0 yards per game) and third-leading passer (Andrew Maxwell at 224.9 yards per game).

Mark Dantonio doesn’t view Roushar as the problem.

“As I said earlier I just got through watching the championship game last year and we scored 39 points,” he said. “How many did we score out here (against Wisconsin last year)? How many did we score against Michigan last year? How many did we score in the bowl game even though it was a tough bowl game? We’ve had plenty of big plays. It’s explosive plays that move the ball. Explosive plays. We’ve had explosive players making those plays – Keshawn Martin, B.J. Cunningham. Again guys that were extremely experienced.

“When you go back and take the time to watch that championship game last year you talk to me about Kirk Cousins. He was phenomenal. Phenomenal as was Keshawn Martin and B.J. As was Edwin Baker. As was Le’Veon Bell. It’s about players making plays. The offense really has not changed. Play calling, you know, you’re trying to help guys make plays. My impression of the whole thing right now is he’s tucked right here under my wing. If they want to criticize, they can criticize me a little because I’m the guy in charge.”

Dantonio said the two meet every week in offensive meetings and review plans on the day before games. He also made reference to MSU’s success last year.

He also said he doesn’t interfere with the play calling during a series but will communicate with both Roushar and defensive coordinator Pat Narduzzi between possessions.

“I empower those coaches to do the job. What I will do is say between the series ‘When we come come back, come back with this. Hey Roush don’t do this. On a timeout, no I want to see this.’ You know, those type of things.

“… I always know what play is being called and always have. I’m not gonna be interrupting. I’m not gonna do that to somebody because I think that’s extremely frustrating for that to happen. Or why did you call that. We’ve got enough people that do that. We don’t need more.”

Defensively, junior middle linebacker Max Bullough’s strong season isn’t going unnoticed nationally. He was named a semifinalist for the Butkus Award on Monday and today was named a quarterfinalist for the Lott IMPACT Trophy. And in today’s edition, Solari takes a look at what we learned from MSU’s loss to Michigan. One of the main things as that the goals for this team have disappeared.

 

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44 Responses to Dantonio sticks up for Roushar

  1. avatar Spartan 81 says:

    Brian, I have to side with Coach Dantonio on this one, the same thing happened with Narduzzi in 09, than in 2010 his personnel improved. So my perspective is modern college football north of the Ohio River is up two years down the third, if you are fully stocked every year you may not be doing things on the up and up i.e. Ohio State. One question though, would not Dantonios goals for the program, gut check two more wins for a bowl, for the extra practice still be in front of us. I am sure Dantonio needs those extra bowl practices as part of next year’s preparation. Also recruits want to come where there is a 13th game every year to hone their skills for the NFL, they do not want a shorter season than potential competitors for NFL jobs at other schools. Appreciate your insight.

  2. avatar Spartan 81 says:

    Atlanta Spartan,
    I have not heard from you unless I missed it since just before the Iowa game?
    Would appreciate your perspective either here or on the other site.

  3. avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

    Here is the double dealing of the BTN and in particular the troll we all know and love as Ghost of Bo or Markie Mark or Goldgirl or his real name Mark Silverman.

    1. The reason the Sadler fake punt run was omitted from the shortened version of the game played 10/20 is that Brandon the AD for UofM called Silverman and asked him to omit it. His reasoning was it made Hoke look unintelligent and a poor coach. Silverman of course did as he was told by his pseudo boss. He didn’t want it shown all the time affecting recruiting because Hoke is telling all the potential recruits that he is a better coach than Coach Dantonio.

    2. When asked why he had sent Grahm “Cracker” Couch a set of golf clubs, Silverman refused to answer saying he was just feeling generous. So we now know what Cracker truly is and we’re just negotiating the price. What he truly is is a paid Paris Hilton troll disguised as the Spartan Beat columnist.

    3. This information is from a “trusted Source” and is therefore not libelous. We need to get an unbiased head of BTN, not one who only supports one institution.

    • avatar '89 Chemistry says:

      Charge [1] is simply awful from an entertainment-business perspective. Guess it’s time to track who’s advertising on BTN and to patronizer only the competitors of their sponsors.

    • avatar behind the green curtain says:

      Why are you always complaining about the cutting room floor, they just ran out of time that’s all. I am so glad that Graham Couch is on board. He has added a breath of fresh air to the Sports Journalism on this beat.

  4. avatar The Tanner says:

    O.C. take heat baby !!!

    Bulluck get notice baby !!!

    Tiges go series baby !!!

    The Tanner brings the goods baby !!!

  5. avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

    Well we know Joe was one of the 2 voters for the Spartans, if Cracker was the other, I’d think that’s what the golf clubs were for, a vote for Paris Hilton. And yes they are still Paris Hilton – Famous for being Famous with no talent – in basketball (losing to Ohio U in first round says that, folks)

    • avatar '89 Chemistry says:

      It’s time to drop the Paris Hilton moniker for UM football. To continue using it you are proclaiming that MSU football got beat by a skinny, vapid girl. If we’re talkin’ hoops, then fire at will. But on the gridiron, it needs to be mothballed until next [pre]-season.

    • avatar marky mark says:

      Get over it!! The team is a joke, the staff is a joke!!! Ohio U was better than the two teams MOO u beat in the tourney!!!!!!!

    • avatar Chris Solari says:

      Matt Charbonneau of the Detroit News was the other voter. It’s an informal media poll with two for each team.

  6. avatar '89 Chemistry says:

    Did anyone remind MD that those same guys that hung 39 on UW (in a losing shootout) also scored a mere three points against UNL?

    Everyone has bad days. But the Dantonio/Roushar team, together, have had more than MSU could afford this year. MD is right to shield DR for the UM game; I certainly blame him more than Roushar for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in that game (I’ll explain later).

    But MD did a lot of hidden “right” things to make the game more competitive than any neutral observer would’ve expected. The two long offensive drives did put the players in reach of a big win–an opportunity that was anything but guaranteed. MD & DR deserve credit for that much; unlike last week, MSU no longer looks like a 5-7 team. And where there’s renewed life, there’s [tempered] renewed hope.

    • avatar Spartan 81 says:

      So you are thinking maybe 7-5 then with a rallying game against Nebraska starting a closing flourish?

      • avatar '89 Chemistry says:

        I’m thinking MSU personnel have an opportunity to learn from their missteps, apply the lessons to the circumstances in Madison, and increase the amount of fun the players are having on the gridiron (that’s been missing this year, it seems–but there was some return of it vs. UM). That’ll set up next Saturday for a game that could go either way.

  7. avatar Spartan 81 says:

    The important thing guys is to keep the bowl streak going to get the extra practice in preparation of next year.

  8. avatar Spartan 81 says:

    (meant as comic relief for those who take things seriously)

    It must have been cold there in Dantonios shadow,
    to never have cameras in your face.
    You were content to let Mark shine, that’s your way.
    You always called your plays a step behind.

    So Mark was the one with all the glory,
    while you were the one with all the stink.
    A beautiful game plan without a passing game for so long.
    A next question smile to hide the pain.

    Did you ever know that you’re my hero,
    and everything I would like to be?
    I can fly higher than an Eastern Michigan eagle,
    ’cause you are the OC tucked beneath Dantonios wings.

    Your O line might have appeared to go unnoticed,
    but I’ve got it all here in my depth chart.
    I want you to know I know the truth, of course I know it.
    Narduzzi would be 7-1 without you.

    Did you ever know that you’re my hero?
    You’re everything I wish I could be.
    I can fly higher than an Eastern Michigan eagle,
    ’cause you are the OC tucked beneath Dantonios wings.

    Fly, fly, fly high against the sky,
    so high I almost touch the sky.
    Thank you, thank you,
    thank God for you, the OC tucked beneath Marks wings

  9. avatar JD says:

    My analysis, long winded. Haven’t seen this take before, sorry if anyone else has done this review.
    When you look at our Quarterback play, in 5.5 seasons with Coach D, this is what you see;
    Brian Hoyer, year 1, was 7-6, including 2 -6 in one score games.
    Kirk Cousins, year 1, was 6-7, including 2 – 5 in one score games.
    Andrew Maxwell, year 1, is 4-4, including 2 – 3 in one score games.
    Total is 17-17, including 6-14 in one score games.
    Then;
    Brian Hoyer, year 2, was 9-4, including 2-1 in one score games, (7 pt loss to Cal in opener)
    Kirk Cousins, years 2 & 3, was 22-5, 8-1 in one score games.
    Total is 31-9, including 10-2 in one score games.

    A couple of things / trends kind of start to come to focus. 1) Obviously, the first year with a new quarterback, has a steep learning curve. But, in one score games, well, in year 1 of a new quarterback the results are a .500 proposition. 2) Year 2 & 3 has seen significant improvement. You are looking at year 1 of 17 – 17 in 34 games, improving to 31-9 in years 2 & 3. 3) the fact that in year 1, for 34 games, 20 are one score certainly indicates that there are lot of close games, when compared to 12 one score games out of 40 for years 2 & 3. I guess this makes sense, the QB play improves and thus the team’s ability win by more points increases.
    The question for me out of all this is simply Why aren’t we getting more snaps for the back up quarterback in real games when the opportunity presents itself? Specifically in years 2 & 3. If you look at Hoyer year 2, we won a games by 32, 17, 16, 17, and lost games by 31 and 38. In years 2 and 3 of Cousins, we had wins of 52, 44, 38, 38, 24, etc. Why isn’t the back up getting snaps and get the playbook open to make some throws.
    If year 1 struggles, followed by year 2 improvement becomes the norm, then it seems we are going to be in for ups and downs. IF Maxwell can muster a .500 record this year and then excels next year, that’s great. But, what does that mean when 2014 rolls around. Depending on who the QB is that year, it could be a Junior with 2 years eligibility or a Soph with 3 years, it would seem that 2014 could be another mediocre season, followed by an upswing in 2015.
    I realize there are many factors that come into play, many, many other position changes, coaching changes, the home and road schedule in a year, etc. But, if you look at just one position, the QB position, the trend after 5.5 years is mediocre Year 1, followed by an uptick.

    (I am defining one score games as 8 points or less, i.e. touchdown and two point conversion)

  10. avatar Spartan 81 says:

    I am going to quote , Joe Rexrode here, seriously folks this is all that matters at this point and all that needs to be said.
    “Still, a complete collapse this season to a losing record and no bowl game would have to have an adverse effect. Opposing staffs certainly would use it against Dantonio and Co. and say it proves their brief time at the top is over.
    If the Spartans can get to 7-5 and win a bowl game, they can more easily talk about the tough luck of three Big Ten losses by six points and point to a Rose Bowl run in 2013. That’s why the rest of this season matters.”

  11. avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

    I guess most people who have been howling about the Offense and raising clamoring for the OC’s job are the same kind of people who would actually throw somebody else under the bus to further their own careers. Well, folks, Coach Dantonio ain’t your huckleberry.

    IDIT

    • avatar Spartan 81 says:

      Well said.

      In Verlander I trust tonight.

    • avatar behind the green curtain says:

      Son , I am so confident in 6-6 that the day I pick up loss number 7 is the day you never here from me again, Hogs be 4-4 Sat night you hear.

      5-4 after November 3 Homecoming game with Tulsa son.

      • avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

        Delusions of grandeur do not look good as your morning coat.Homecoming will be a struggle to get to .500. You did lose to a Geographic School, after all.

        • avatar '89 Chemistry says:

          Loss #7 might well be to the Bulldogs.

          • avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

            If JLS gets to a bowl game, somebody in the Administration will buy him a house to live in, gratis. If not, well, he’ll be looking for a box under a bridge someplace. This is, again, from a “Trusted Source”.

  12. avatar Spartan 81 says:

    Hey Chris or Brian

    Earvin just tweeted that the 79 team made Sports Illustrated list as the #2 team of all time right behind 64 UCLA could you run the tweet , it has the link to the article .

    Thanks

  13. avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

    If any want to see what Coach Izzo has to say at the B1G basketball presser, Mlive is posting twitter feeds from it’s guys concurrently.

    • avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

      this year.

      10:20 a.m.: Izzo says the Big Ten has the best coaches its ever had, and that the difficult schedule will be hard on the coaches.

      10:16 a.m.: Izzo is impressed with Gary Harris’ ability to defend and is a chip off the block from his mother, who played at Purdue and in the WNBA.

      10:14 a.m.: Izzo said Adreian Payne and Derrick Nix will have to play together “a significant amount.” He likes Payne as a shooter.

      10:11 a.m.: Izzo said Russell Byrd is injury-free and a team leader. He’s not just a leader by example, which Izzo said is “a cop-out.”

      10:10 a.m.: Tom Izzo likes his team, his depth, his youth, his Final Four-experienced players.

  14. avatar 3M_Rocker says:

    The mark of a good coach is doing more with less talent. Yes, we had veteran talent last year, so if we didn’t score points last year, it would really have been disastrous. But the truth of the matter is we still retain more talent than other programs out there that outscore us against similar competition. Indiana scores points with MAC level talent.

    As a coordinator, it’s up to Roushar to come up with schemes that take advantage of opposing defense’s tendencies and insert plays that best utilize the strong points of your talent. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen teams in the NFL come up with really inventive run and blocking schemes that attack a very aggressive pass rush. You just don’t see Roushar come up with very many of these plays. He’s a simpleton as a coach.

    If Dantonio keeps this guy around for next year, you gotta start to doubt his judgement. I’m hoping it’s just talk and he’ll make the move after the season is over.

    • avatar behind the green curtain says:

      I would have to agree with you a hundred percent there pardnah! Right now its a race with the Hogs to see who gets to 6-6. Sole motivation should be I am not doing this for myself doing for the kids to get the extra practice. Its not about the coach its all about the kids.

    • avatar Spartan 81 says:

      He kept calm and brought Narduzzi back in 2010 and look what happened , sometimes its the personel you have to work with. Would you fire a jockey who had to ride a horse with a lame leg the year after he rode a thoroughbred?

      • avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

        He is just praying to get to a bowl so the administration will buy him a double wide to use in his dotage. If he doesn’t make it to a bowl, as I said earlier, he’ll have to live under a bridge like the rest of the trolls.

        • avatar behind the green curtain says:

          what the ???? who are you??? how could you possibly know ????

          • avatar USMCSpartan(Ret.) says:

            John L, it’s just simple intelligence gathering: easy for some – baffling for others. Something you might have thought about before you went in hock for >$40M, but then intelligence and John L Smith were never ever used in the same sentence, now were they.

      • avatar 3M_Rocker says:

        Narduzzi always showed promise and he got his guys to hit hard at least. I didn’t like Roushar last year and I REALLY don’t like him this year. This year is like a season of last year’s Nebraska game. Unbearable.

        I think, philosophically, one can do more with less talent on offense rather than on defense. Schemes and game planning can make up for lack of talent at certain positions. As I’ve said, there are a lot of teams out there who can score points with far less talent than MSU has on offense. You can’t help but to zero in on the guy in charge of one of the most ineffective offenses in the country.

        • avatar Spartan 81 says:

          Well lets see if he wins a lot of close games when the talent level improves. If the same thing happens next year I would concede you are right , but I do not think Dantonio will allow this to happen in 2013

  15. avatar superstate says:

    Just checking the clock/time of post. Appears to be off some….

  16. avatar superstate says:

    Sure enough, I have 4:26 PM when I sent the prior post.

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